Wednesday, July 26, 2006


Over at the dark christian, a very blue christian site, they are commenting on these quotes from the red side of the christian world. I have to admit they are powerful in a negative way. The red-blue divide is so polarized they have a struggle even talking to each other. The extreme of “blue” is communism. The extreme of red is fascism. They both have some scary overlapping points with regards to government control over the citizens who live under either form of government.

When I was in seminary, it was pointed out that there are four kinds of Christians: closed conservatives, open conservatives, closed liberals, and open liberals. Only open conservatives and open liberals can have an actual conversation with a true exchange of ideas and the possibility of changing to the point of view of the other on an issue or two. The main problem is most people would rather be right than make relationships right. Most people sit just one side or the other of the middle of the political spectrum and many have positions that are on both sides of the middle of the political spectrum.

In speaking with people, most people care about health care service delivery, retirement, education for their children and grandchildren, a stable economy, etc. The mechanics of how they want those things delivered is often the sticking point for arguments. There is one thing that concerns me, however, the apparent attempt to remove Christianity from places in which it is legally allowed to exist. I believe there is a strong anti-Christian movement working against all of us, both red and blue Christians and don’t quite know what to do about it. However as a red christian (most of the time) Ann Coulter scares me.

Ann Coulter
We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren’t punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That’s war. And this is war.
Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims.
Being nice to people is, in fact, one of the incidental tenets of Christianity, as opposed to other religions whose tenets are more along the lines of ‘kill everyone who doesn’t smell bad and doesn’t answer to the name Mohammed’

Bailey Smith
With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew.

Beverly LaHaye (Concerned Women for America)
Yes, religion and politics do mix. America is a nation based on biblical principles. Christian values dominate our government. The test of those values is the Bible. Politicians who do not use the bible to guide their public and private lives do not belong in office.

Bob Dornan (Rep. R-CA)
Don’t use the word ‘gay’ unless it’s an acronym for ‘Got Aids Yet’

David Barton (Wallbuilders)
There should be absolutely no ‘Separation of Church and State’ in America.

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